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We Spent The Day With Speidi & This Is What Happened

In honor of therecently confirmed The Hills reboot , The Hills: New Beginnings , let’s take a look back at Refinery29’s 2016 visit to Speidi’s California home.

These are a few things that happen when you spend a day with Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag: you tip-toe around their house as to not disturb their four dogs (the closest thing the couple has to kids), you eat Mexican food (twice), and you talk about what it’s like to be famous.

You know Pratt and Montag from their days spent in front of the camera on the iconic reality series, The Hills. They were the self-destructive, blonder, and less extreme Nancy & Sid Vicious of the Los Angeles club scene. They made Lauren Conrad cry. A lot. They tipped the paparazzi off to where they were at all times to elevate their namesake and couple moniker, Speidi. They bought crystals. They bought everything. They ended up broke, but never broke up. They rode the wave of fame until the tide died down and there were barely even ripples.

But then in 2016, something happened. Speidi found a new way to start entertaining their fans — old and young, new and loyal — by using social media to provide a (constant) glimpse into their daily life. They reinstated their relevance and their web expanded for the first time in years. They started using Snapchat and Twitter to interact with anyone that showed interest in their lives.

I was one of those people.

Despite seeing their dozens of tweets and hundreds of Snaps a week, I had to know more about the state of Speidi and what they really do all day. The purpose of my visit to Speidi’s lair is to see what the two do all day on the other side of their Snapchat selfie cams (and to fulfill a lifelong dream of hanging out with the Pratts), but more than that, it was to see in person how two people can go from television show villains, to struggling twentysomethings, to budding social media entrepreneurs.

They now live in a quiet beach town and mostly keep to themselves. However, they were kind enough to open their doors to me and give full access to follow them around for a day in late November.

So, what is a typical day for Speidi? Let’s start at the beginning.

This story has been updated.

The Arrival, 10:08 a.m.It wasn’t until I was tip-toeing up to the side entrance of their home that it sunk in that I was about to spend the whole day with members of the reality TV hall of fame (as the most notorious villains).

I first spot Heidi running up the driveway towards their house, hair still in curlers. She’s frantic; I’m on time. I ring the doorbell, pretending to not have seen her, and she ushers the photographer and I in through the side door, pleading with us to be as quiet at possible as to not disturb the four dogs in the back house. Once inside, she peels away to finish getting ready, and Spencer casually walks in, on his phone of course. We greet each other like old friends (isn’t Twitter weird?): “I feel like I’ve already met you.” “Same!”

Their home is well-lit with natural light from the vaulted ceilings and dozens of windows. It belongs to Spencer’s parents, and they live there rent-free at the moment. There are dozens of magazines (Spencer’s favorites) spread across the kitchen table. They have a lot of pictures of themselves around the house, but the most striking one is a huge custom Lego piece that hangs above the landing of their stair well. It’s the first thing you see when you walk into the house. Spencer doesn’t remember how much he paid for it, but he confirms that it was expensive.

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The First Snapchat, 10:35 a.m.Every day, Spencer wakes up around 9 a.m. and starts Snapchatting. He easily shares 50 Snapchats a day, depending on the activities he has planned. But nothing is off-limits for him. After Heidi is finished with her hair, we head down to their car, a huge black Denali, which is full of half-empty Essentia Enhanced water bottles (he’s desperate for an Essentia sponsorship). We climb in, Spencer in the driver’s seat and Heidi in the passenger, and head to our first destination, their favorite breakfast burrito joint (they love burritos). We barely make it past the gate to their neighborhood before Spencer abruptly stops the car and jumps out. “I gotta get these birds!” he says, and starts taking a video.

Heidi uses this opportunity to take a few selfies and check out what filters are available. She says she would love to create her own filters and has a few ideas that she’s come up with. Most of them are animal-related. (Snapchat, are you listening?)

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The Breakfast Burrito, 10:32 a.m.It is a fact that Spencer and Heidi love Mexican food. When I asked them where they wanted to go to, they chose to begin and end the day with Mexican food… galore. You know when little kids get a fountain drink and take their cup of ice to the machine and fill every kind of soda in one cup? It’s called “a suicide” and results in a toxic-looking black fizzy cola. Spencer does the equivalent of this with salsas.

He’d love to do a commercial for Taco Bell soon (if the internet is as powerful as we think it is, this could very well come to fruition): “I always tweet Taco Bell a picture of me and tacos, and I think a lot of people tweet them, saying ‘Give Spencer a commercial!’ ’cause when I Snapchat eating their tacos, the [followers on Twitter] always say that I make them wanna eat them.” This commercial would actually be nearly a decade in the making as in 2008. At one point the two were even spokespeople for the fast food chain.

They also tell me about their upcoming Taco Bell Friendsgiving event happening the next day, which they will later document every moment of on Snapchat. Pratt is also on a long mission to solve a Taco Bell mystery, which he calls “The Craziest Taco Bell Story.”

“I’ve told it before, and I’m going to bring it up when we’re there tomorrow,” he tells me later back at his house. “The President of Taco Bell gave me, off of his chest, his Taco Bell pin, which means you eat taco bell free for your life. I tried it at multiple Taco Bells and they looked at me [blankly]. Obviously, it worked for him, cause it’s like, ‘I’m the president.’ But for me they were like, what are you talking about? It never works. I eventually lost it, or I threw it away. But now I want it back, because now I would be live tweeting and saying, ‘I have my pin, they’re not giving me tacos.’”

Later that day, after I leave, Heidi would film Spencer doing a solo mannequin challenge in a nearby Taco Bell. People would later deem the video “one of the biggest social media moments of 2016.” He would also get the “magical pin” back.

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MexiCali Lovers, 10:47 a.m.Spencer and Heidi both took Spanish in college. Spencer took three semesters, and Heidi only took one. If we’re getting into the details of it though, Heidi nearly took one because she was kicked out of the class. She was tossed out because she was never enrolled at University of Southern California where she had been attending said class. She went so she could be with Spencer. Neither of them use their knowledge of the language when ordering their food.

Only Spencer and Heidi would cheers their halves of burritos and seal it with a kiss. Before noon. Their puppy dog love for each other is palpable, but not obnoxious. They’re just really, really into each other. But they also know what to do to make people talk about them, it’s their gift. They still know how to work the paparazzi (even if it’s just me and the camera guy this time around).

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The Touch-Up, 11:05 a.m.Back into the Denali we go. It’s only been an hour, but I’m getting used to this fam squad. I feel like their kid being toted around on errands. Heidi really wants kids. She’s made this a known fact in multiple interviews. They even already have a potential name, compliments Spencer: Spider.

I ask if we’d see the return of Speidi on their own show anytime soon, especially if she becomes pregnant. “I think anyone would, but it’s just, it’s different. Maybe when we have a baby. We’re not sure what [it would be], but, obviously we would like that, you know. We’ll see.”

The only problem is, she says, that most networks want an ensemble cast, not just a show centering around one couple. Rob & Chyna only worked because it was a spin-off from the Kardashian empire. “We’ll see what happens. We’re definitely not relying on that though.”

But it’s not out of the question.

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The Espresso Selfie, 11:15 a.m.Spencer goes to Lucky Llama a lot. All the baristas know him and they light up when we walk in. They have inside jokes. He Snaps the two twentysomething cashier girls and they excitedly ham it up for his outstretched arm, iPhone in hand. “Don’t put an ugly filter on me!” one of the brunettes requests. Spencer orders an espresso shot, but goes behind the counter to make sure it’s up to his standards. He has extremely high espresso standards and makes his own every morning to weigh a perfect 32 ounces. He makes the guy standing at the machine make another one. The shot was too heavy; it’s no good. While the staff embraces Spencer’s foolery, older onlookers scoffed in his direction, and one man reading a book visibly glares in his direction.

Heidi quietly orders a latte, which she promptly Snapchats, but admits, “I’m a wino,” and that she usually just gets tea.

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The Latte Art, 11:21 a.m.Heidi is a self-proclaimed housewife. Her days are consumed by taking care of her dogs, her man, and her money. She budgets everything they do. Everything. She’s their accountant. Throughout the day she says things like “Not in the budget” and ” every dollar counts.” Later on her couch, she explains that they are still learning how to save and spend money, since their income isn’t steady. Neither have ever, or probably will ever, work outside of the entertainment industry.

“We had a talk, the other day, again, and I was like, ‘Ok, our goals are getting out of line so sometimes we have to check in on it,” she tells me. Spencer doesn’t even look at the monthly bills, it has become Heidi’s project because she is naturally more financially-conscious. Spencer grew up with money and has always been a bit jaded about finances. “We just grew up so differently, too,” she says. “He grew up in the Palisades and went to private school. And it’s just different. So, growing up with everything, you don’t realize, everything is something. I grew up in a very different way wherein like, going out to eat once a month or whatever was a big deal. I kind of fell into the other lifestyle with him, like, ‘Oh, great we have so much money!’ and it’s just coming in. I assumed too much it was gonna keep coming in. So I’ve had to really go back to like my roots, and it’s like, every dollar counts. Back to my principles, and back to the original voice. I have to put my foot down.”

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The Mannequin Challenge, 11:30 a.m.A connoisseur of grabbing the attention of the masses, Spencer has an idea for some potentially viral content: “Let’s do the Mannequin challenge now.” He calls me over and has me stand with the menu, and positions all the other baristas. One thing Spencer is great at is coming up with a relevant pop culture moment, and he appreciates other reality stars doing the same. We talk about Jonathan Cheban (“he is my new favorite, just ’cause I know he’s not eating any of that food”) and Kelly Oxford (“she wanted us to open a crystal store together in Silver Lake”), who both have prominent social media followings. Spencer and Heidi both particularly love Blac Chyna and her hustle.

“I never didn’t think she wasn’t a genius,” Spencer says. “She’s like, ‘Kim, you don’t wanna be friends with me anymore? Ok, see ya at Thanksgiving. I’d love to have your last name.'” He adds: “Mannequin challenge in the delivery room. We were saying like… your brain is operating at a whole ‘nother level.” Later in the day, I bring up that DJ Khaled Snapchatted his wife’s delivery, too. Heidi immediately responds: “Oh, we will be doing that!”

I hope she means it.

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The Juice/Soup Life, 12:18 p.m.Speidi go to a lot of the same places all the time, one of them being Pacific Health Food, which is owned by their friends Whitney and Nathan. The grocery store features a juice bar along with an array of organic produce and other healthy ingredients. It’s very California. While we’re there, a cop walks in and stands next to us as we order our juices. Spencer asks him if he wants to do a mannequin challenge with him and go viral. He says no.

Meanwhile, Heidi helps me decide what to order. She loves fruits and vegetables and often makes her own juices at home (to save money). She is especially conscious of her health following her plastic surgeries and a recent arm surgery last year. “I try to cook really healthy for us. I usually cook like whole roast chicken, roasted and marinated, and then like, last night I made a grilled steak. I put it in the oven, with sweet potato fries, and then a vegetable. So I just try to eat like really healthy, organic, non-GMO, good ingredients, just really clean.” She wants to start her own cooking YouTube channel to share her recipes and Spencer really wants her to. He loves her cooking, especially her homemade soups (he calls it “soup life”). His current seasonal favorite is butter squash soup, although he never remembers the name.

Spencer: “Heidi knows I’m all about the soup life. So, this week’s soup has been, what’s the yellow one called?” Heidi: “Butternut squash.” Spencer: “Butternut squash, which is off the hook. She puts on the top of it, the actual roasted butternut squash seeds.”

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Meta Selfies, 12:23 pm.The health food store is pretty empty, too, like most of the town. It’s chilly outside, but gorgeously sunny, which means perfect selfie lighting. It’s interesting to see how much Spencer and Heidi are on their phones. As a millennial and someone who very much grew up with social media, I come nowhere close to this level of social media addiction. Spencer says he spends 99% of his day on the internet.

The more they Snap, the more curious I get. How many people are opening up and viewing these flower crown selfies every day? When I finally ask them they both get defensive: “Zero…None.” They say in unison. Then, they both pull out their phones and start Snapping me in a very meta moment, and ask me to repeat the question. “Morgan’s asking personal intimate questions about Snap views, like a cop,” Spencer says to the camera, filming me. Heidi joins in, and shares a picture of me with the caption “Morgan is a cop.”

So, how many is a lot? I don’t personally have an answer, but I tell them DJ Khaled told me he has 3 million daily Snapchat views. “Well, he’s famous,” Spencer quips back. But… so are you guys I think to myself. Finally, Spencer answers (Heidi never does). “Before auto-play, I think my record was like, 35,000 [views],” he says. “But now I average 20. My story max is like 23 to 25,000.” Not DJ Khaled numbers, but still impressive. But he wants more, and he wants Snapchat to verify his account. He looked into it and has uncovered a Snapchat conspiracy. “I wanna know what it takes to get verified, because I was bitching like, ‘Oh, I wanna get verified,'” he says. “And then I was like, you know what, it’s because I don’t get enough views. But then, oh my god, Yes Julz, who’s like, supposedly the biggest on Snapchat, has a ton of views and they hadn’t even verified her. So they’re just elitist, you know. With all due respect — I love Paris Hilton — but they verified Paris Hilton.”

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Speidi 101, 12:47 p.m.Back at their house with three stops down, and still one more to go (dinner at their favorite Mexican restaurant, of course) I sit down and get some one-on-one time with each of them. I want to know their exact daily routine.Heidi’s Typical Day:”I usually wake up at like, 7, and then I take the dogs out. Then I have like a half an hour of prayer, meditation time, alone, before he wakes up. Then I feed the dogs, and take them out. Then I usually start getting Spencer up. I cook breakfast for him. And then we clean breakfast. And then I help him get off to Jiu Jitsu by getting the bags packed and everything. When he’s gone I usually do accounting or some laundry and cleaning. I do a lot of housework and I manage a lot of our business, and all that stuff. Then he comes home and then I’ll cook lunch, and then I’ll clean lunch. Then I’ll do some more laundry. Then I walk the dogs. And then I do dinner, and I clean up dinner. And then, I usually watch like an hour of TV that I record. Then I get ready for bed, and then the next day starts. It’s like groundhog’s day.”

Spencer’s Typical Day:”Well, I wake up at about nine o’clock and I yell to Heidi from bed, ‘Are the waffles ready, honey?’ And she goes, ‘You want waffles or pancakes?’ And I go, ‘Uh, whatever.’ So then I wait for the pancakes or waffles to be ready. That’s my new thing, since I’m dieting, I don’t eat burritos everyday, I do waffles or pancakes. They’re super healthy. Whole wheat. And then, I pound a whole glass of water, usually right when I, before I get out of bed. Then I make espresso. First shot before I eat my pancakes or waffles. Eat them. Second shot. Then I start getting my gear and everything ready to go. I go to train Jiu Jitsu. Then, usually, we would pick up burritos for lunch, for Heidi and I, but now that Heidi is full chef, we usually just come home. Heidi has a soup prepared. Because she knows ’em all about soup life. And a slice of homemade bread. Then I just get on Twitter and read tweets and… other than that, just waiting for my big, my big call that they offered Ben [Higgins of The Bachelor]. I’m just waiting, coach. Put me in the game.”

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Wall Of Fame, 12:51 p.m.To the right of their living room is a nook that has become Speidi’s office. The walls of the nook are covered with tabloid, magazine, and newspaper covers and clippings from their glory days. It’s weird seeing their entire lives chronicled by snarky headlines and rumors about their relationship. But they don’t care; they love them. “I have boxes more, I’m waiting to get them framed,” he says. “Why don’t we put ’em all [up]?” (They haven’t put them up because Heidi likes the white space and is particular about what kind of frames they use.)

To the left of Spencer’s computer is a framed copy of a Los Angeles Times cover star titled, “The Speidi Chronicles.” In the corner is a tiny write-up about Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson about their role in Twilight. Speidi’s coverage was six times the size of Twilight. Spencer looks at it proudly, and adds, “That was when the LA calendar, like pre-internet, like the LA calendar when, like, to be on the cover of that in Hollywood was like, the biggest deal possible, when that dropped. And now it’s like, who has a newspaper?”

These days, Spencer is working on going his post-internet relevance. From his desk, surrounded by memorabilia from nearly a decade prior, he sits, schemes and tweets. His latest idea is to go viral on YouTube. He started a channel, and purchased professional lights and a green man suit for videos. He plans to take his Snapchat content to the next level by uploading vlog-style videos to his channel. Spencer, like his wife, is a natural in front of the camera. He knows how to schmooze an audience (if you watch his Snapchats you can see it for yourself). One of the most popular segments of his Snapchat which he hopes to bring onto his YouTube channel are his daily gossip magazine readings. He sits down with a copy of US Weekly or Life & Style and gives a page-by-page dramatic reading of each celebrity story, adding his own Spencerisms here and there. He says the whole process of reading the tabloids takes him two hours, and wants the production value to match the amount of effort he puts into his endeavor.

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#TBTs, 1:00 p.m.While we’re talking about peak Speidi, we fall onto the topic of pit Speidi, when The Hills was cancelled. I mention the drama from earlier this year surrounding The Hills anniversary special, which Spencer was not asked to attend despite him being an integral part of the show. “Originally, it was Lauren’s show,” Heidi explains. “And I think that the people who run that are still really close with her so, the only way to get her to do it I think was to just make it a special about her. So I think they were just like, ‘Alright … Whatever we have to do get Lauren to do it, let’s just do it.'”

I ask her about when the show wrapped, whether or not they were approached to do their own spin-off. She says they were, and that it almost happened. “Yeah we had our own one contracted. It just didn’t… it didn’t happen. We definitely thought that we had like a show after that, but it just didn’t end up…”

From the other side of the room, Spencer calls out: ” Jersey Shore murdered us.” But, he says, “they deserved to kill us.” Heidi agrees adding, “They were great.”

I ask if they have any advice for people starring in reality television. “Save your money.”

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Espresso Expert, 1:20 p.m.Spencer has been on a mission to make the perfect espresso shot. On any average day, he says, he will sometimes make up to nine espresso shots on his journey towards the perfect 32 oz. shot. He doesn’t drink them all and will often pour them out if they’re not up to his standards. He has a fancy espresso machine, a fancy scale for his grinds, and a growing espresso cup collection.

Earlier when we were at Lucky Llama, he handed me his phone showing direct messages between him and a random man he found on Instagram who makes fancy cups. “This is like how into espresso I am. I’m like messaging, asking people where they get their cups. Look at this guy’s cup collection.”

“I hope they don’t answer,” Heidi says. “Oh no, I’m not getting any of them,” he says. “Not in the budget.”

Heidi smiles.

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Spencer Pratt On Espresso

“The grind’s the hardest part, because that changes the most. Like, right now, I can already tell, this machine has been on, for like, four hours, or whatever. The water’s so hot, that it’s gonna come out so fast. So the hardest part about, and like, baristas will tell you that it’s not that big of a deal, but you want 30 pounds of pressure. So I always wanna do an exact [amount of pressure], and like a barista guy will be like, “Well this isn’t 30 pounds, one lean.” You know. But this company came out one where one it pushes down that 30 pounds pressure. It exerts exactly that. So, I don’t have any reason, you know most like, fancy pants baristas all have like collections of tamps, different wood ones. It’s like, to me I’d rather have the perfect science where I know it’s 30 pounds. Maybe in a few years of doing that I’ll know exactly [how hard to lean], but still, you know, it’ll never be 30 pounds. So, you want 30 pounds of pressure on your tamp.”

His espresso machine starts making loud noises, but nothing happens.

“Oh no, I’m out of water. So that’s also the reason why I can’t compete against the champion [baristas] right now, is because of the pumped water. I guess it creates a different pressure, when it’s like pumped into your tank versus just pouring it in. I’ve looked into it, and to run a frickin’ hose into there, and it’s like so not cheap to have it. My accountant Heidi said, we are not running a dedicated line.”

Heidi from the other side of the kitchen chimes in: “This is his parents’ house. We are not.”

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Crystallize, 2:03 p.m.Ah, the crystals. Spencer made crystals mainstream (and kind of a joke) at one point, but he still truly believes in the good intentions and positive energy these natural creations bring into his life. He even has his own metaphysical crystal kit. He says that Heidi is actually the one who first got him into crystals. “She actually had a crystal rock collection like it when she was a kid,” he says. But it would be Spencer who would end up with an expansive and impressive collection as an adult.

“They say in the crystal world, go with the first crystal you pick, and of course, Spencer picks the biggest crystal as his first,” Heidi comments, standing on the stairs behind us. “And he’s like, ‘I have to have it.’ Our business managers were like, ‘You guys cannot afford this crystal. And he was like, ‘No, it’s calling me. I need this crystal.”

“But I already bought it,” Spencer laughs. “And then they were like ‘No, we talked to the owner, he’ll take your return.’ But I was like, ‘No, no, I’ve committed mentally.'”

His favorite crystal at the moment is Kunzite because “it makes me feel like, chill.” People get lost in crystals all the time, he says. “I imagine if you do drugs, which thankfully, I don’t, then they’re way more interesting.”

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Meditation Break, 2:18 p.m.Another favorite of his are Lemurian crystals, pictured here. “Lemurian is like, magical land like, Atlantis. Before Atlantis, there was Lemurian. So these are pretty much like, microchips from the future and the past. It’s like, so deep. So if you wanna download information from like, Lemurian, you meditate with these.” I ask if he mediates with them on his body or just surrounding him. “Everyone will say there’s a different way.” He isn’t as obsessed with crystals anymore, but still expands his collection. Heidi recently brought him home a Pyrites from her trip to Aspen.

Since crystals are all about energy, he got rid of the ones he had while filming The Hills. “Thankfully I gave away a lot of those energy stones. I didn’t realize I wasn’t gonna have money to be buying all these crystals forever, so I didn’t think, like, oh, here, take this $800 crystal. I gave one away for an Us Weekly charity that was like a $10,000 phantom smokey quartz that I still think about because somebody probably got it at charity for like 100 bucks or something.”

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Fame Game, 2:28 p.m.Heidi has always wanted to be famous. One way or another, it was going to happen for her. “When I was little it was to be like a movie star,” she says when I ask her what she wanted to be when she was younger. “There’s home videos of me being like, ‘I’m gonna be famous one day!’ when I was little. I called my stepdad Mr. Cameraman. Like, ‘Excuse me, Mr. Cameraman!’ So, that was always my biggest dream. And then I wanted to be in fashion when I was in middle school and high school. And I was like the only one in my town who had Vogue and all those things, and that’s really what I wanted to do. I moved to San Francisco and I was going to fashion school because they have one of the top three fashion schools in the country there. And so I was going to that school, and then I met Lauren.” And the rest is, as they say, history.

While her childhood dreams did come true, there’s one aspect of her celebrity stardom that never came to fruition: her career as a pop star. In 2010, Heidi, with the help of Spencer, independently released a 12-track album, Superficial. It took nearly three years and more than two million dollars to create. In a 2010 interview with Entertainment Weekly, Heidi compares the album to Thriller. Should we expect more music from her?

“I do have one song I need to get in and cut that I bought a long time ago that I still love, and I’d love to do that,” Heidi says. Spencer adds that they spent $15,000 on the song back in 2007 and just haven’t created a single yet. “I need to cut it, but other than that, I think I’m kind of done in the music scene. In my imagination, I’d love to have a Christmas album.”

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Wine Time, 2:32 p.m.Speidi has a lot of downtime, considering they mostly just hang out with each other. Most of Spencer’s “friends” (he uses air quotes, too) live in Malibu which is about two hours away (on a good day). In their basement level, they have a few time-wasting activities: an arcade game, a pool table, and games, like chess.

“Do y’all play chess?” I ask, pointing to the expensive-looking crystal chess set sitting by their fireplace. “We used to play,” he says. “It’s way more fun when you drink wine.”

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Yin & Yang, 3:15 p.m.Speidi doesn’t know who came up with their famous nickname. It’s either Ken Baker, a photo editor at Us Weekly, or a random person who will never get credit. I tell Spencer that I thought he made it up, but he defiantly responds, “I’d like to but nah. I’d obviously claim [but] I didn’t.”

Whoever came up with it deserves a Peabody because no other couple is so deserving of a hybrid title than these two. Every decision they make is for Team Speidi. But every couple should hang out with friends. Balance is key to any healthy relationship, even theirs.

I ask how often they hang out with friends. They say not too often. “I’d rather hang out with you,” Spencer says, looking up from his phone to make eye contact with his wife. “Well, always,” she responds.

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Speidi 2.0, 3:41 p.m.By hour four, Speidi and I are feeling pretty comfortable with each other. I tell them they should get a podcast, they say no thanks. I joke that they should sell their parents house to make money, they say lol, no. And then we get to the real stuff.

Do you guys feel pressure to be constantly be in the spotlight? I ask Heidi. “I feel like in order for us to move forward and kind of reinvent ourselves within a realm, because that is our main thing — television shows and all that. I think it’s important for us to figure out how to evolve within our own realm.”

Evolving within their own realm. That’s a pretty serious take on what feels like a frivolous topic, but this is more about their livelihood than than making a tabloid headline. Rather than deal with agents and a PR team, they’re doing everything themselves. “It puts a lot more pressure [on us], but it’s also a lot easier at the same time. It is easier when you have other people do everything for you. It’s also different when one’s like a guaranteed income and one [show] is more like for fun.”

All of their appearances on television have been purely for income, never just for fun. “We’ve done a TV show ever since The Hills. I did Famous Food. And then we did Wife Swap. Then we did Celebrity Big Brother. Then we did Marriage Boot Camp. I did the Mother Daughter Experiment.” So when networks approach them, do they get to choose which show they want to do? Heidi laughs. “No. Sometimes we have to choose between two…but usually, it’s just one.”

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Beach Oasis, 4:06 p.m.There’s still an hour or so before the sun will set, and the Pacific Ocean is glittering. I spot the pile of surfboards on their patio. Do you guys surf? “Spencer does,” she says, adding that he’s actually really good.

As for her? “No, I’m way too fragile,” she laughs. She’s referring to her surgeries, which I even forgot she had until then. It dawns on me that she looks great. Her face is wrinkle-free and her inconspicuous outfit of a high-neck sweater, tan leather jacket, and faded boot-cut jeans is drawing no extra attention to her figure. (She loves The Gap.) The young, naive, and insecure Heidi we knew is nowhere in sight. Instead it’s housewife Heidi, who doesn’t surf because of her surgeries instead of posing with a bikini on one — something she would have done for a photo op in the past.

I walk further down to past the chairs and the surfboards and almost set off their silent alarm. Heidi asks me to step back, and calls for Spencer. The dogs in the other house can hear the alarm go off and will start to go crazy, she says, “They know when I’m around.” “They can smell her,” Spencer adds. Since I’ve been with them for nearly six hours, this is the longest they haven’t seen Heidi in a while. I ask if she’s content with their calm life, outside of the toxicity of L.A. “It’s been great being here [in Carpinteria]. We’re just kind of figuring out what’s the best option. You know it is better to be near family and be down there [near Palisades, where Spencer is from]. And, you know, there’s more opportunities down there. But we love it up here, too. So this is kind of a win-win.” We go inside and decide to head out to dinner. Before we leave, Heidi does a few dishes while Spencer browses Twitter.

Photographed by Nathaniel Wood.

Delivery at Delgados, 4:57 p.m.When Spencer and Heidi started dating, their messy relationship seemed fake. But now, it’s one of the sole authentic moments from the show. One of their favorite topics is how manufactured and scripted the entire series was. Of all the cast members, Heidi says that Whitney Port was the only one that actually worked, which is why her spin-off, The City, didn’t work. She was too busy to pretend.

And that’s the best part about Speidi, they don’t pretend either anymore. They are upfront about their intentions and desires from the get-go. The reason they share so much on social media is because they are so comfortable with themselves now. They’ve grown up. On our way to dinner, we run into their mail man who warmly greets the couple. He hands them a delivery, and Spencer is psyched. When we park at Delgado’s Mexican Foods, he tears into the package and pulls out his brown belt from his Jiu jitsu training. Heidi is beaming. “He’s getting his brown belt!” she tells me excitedly and starts Snapchatting him as he Snapchats himself. Their support for one another is unwavering. Their time as reality star villains might have had an expiration date, but their commitment to each other is sound.

Photographed by Nathaniel Wood.

Fry Guy, 5:14 p.m.Even though we’ve been to four food places in six hours, Speidi manages to order enough food for a dozen people at Fry Guy; they clearly miss eating out. Before Heidi’s budgeting days, they would come and eat here regularly. When the waitress spots us, her smile widens. She comes over and immediately assumes we’re getting a pitcher. Not today, they say. “I’ve thrown up in that bathroom so many times,” Heidi says to me, pointing to the restroom to our right. She hasn’t been drunk off tequila since she got sick from it on The Mother Daughter Experiment.

When they first moved to Carpinteria, they used to get blackout drunk here all the time. They would stumble home, wasted off tequila. “It was our version of a frat row” she says.

While we’re wrapping up, I ask Spencer to rank the legitimacy of gossip magazines, and his opinion on which one exposes the juiciest secrets. “The only mags that have juice and gossip are In Touch and Life & Style. They all have different purposes. Us Weekly, to me, is the publicists magazine. You’re never gonna get a story there that will offend a big star. You’re not getting any juice juice. And People is never going to air out anyone’s dirty… they put Donald Trump right on the cover. But it’s a loaded question, so I read all of them. I never have to choose just one to buy because I have a subscription to all of them.”

A trend starts to appear: Spencer likes everything to be over-the-top. Why have nachos when he can have fries on it too? Why get one crystal when he can get 100? Why choose one magazine when he can buy all 15? Why Snapchat one moment when he can share it all? More is more. He will always crave a lifestyle of excess. As we get up from the table to leave, I ask what they’re going to do once I leave. “Maybe go see a movie,”Heidi says. “I had a record at the Santa Monica Blockbuster for the most videos before they closed,” Spencer adds. “I used to rent like 20 movies at a time, I swear.”

Photographed by Nathaniel Wood.

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Our Editors Share The Best Jeans You Can Buy Without Trying On

Most would assume they couldn’t possibly find a well-fitting jean without trying it on. When you don’t know your size in a particular brand, or what style, cut, or silhouette you’re looking for, you can end up waiting in a 30-minute-long changing room line, only to end up sweating just two pairs in.

But what if we told you that you could find the perfect baby blues without even having to try them on? We asked members of Refinery29’s fashion team for the pairs they swear by to save you the stress (consider this our version of The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants). If you’re long overdue for some denim you won’t hate wearing, go ahead: Here you’ll find a pair ahead for every style, budget, and body booty.

“You know the magic that was felt when the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants discovered a perfect pair of jeans which fit everyone like a glove? That same magic is what overcame my body first time I threw these on. While I don’t plan on sharing *my* pair with anyone else, I do recommend everyone go out and buy them. Their wide-leg, sexy button-down sides are full of J.Lo circa “Jenny from the Block,” but there’s still a slouchy, tailored fit that gives them a dressed-up edge. How often do you come across a pair of jeans you can wear on a Friday night out and a Monday in the office? I wear these jeans so much, my coworkers are probably sick of seeing them.”- Ray Lowe, Fashion Market Editor

3×1 Joy Snap Away Jean Riva, $425, available at 3×1

“Let me preface this by saying: I hate wearing pants. I really do. Proportion-wise, nothing is more frustrating than trying to find a pair that doesn’t gape at my waist, but also fits over my thighs and behind, and aren’t too long for my 5’2″ stature, which is why I tend to avoid shopping for jeans altogether. These Good American ones, however, are one of the more recent denim purchases I’ve made. I love the cropped length, the wash, how soft they are (I hate when jeans feel starchy), and the high- (but not too high) rise.”- Erin Cunningham, Fashion News Director

Good American Good Straight, $159, available at Good American

“I swear The Gap has somehow stolen my measurements, because their jeans have always fit me since as long as I remember, no matter what size I’ve been. I’ve got healthy calves, average thighs, and a substantial butt — without much of a waist, and their jeans never make me feel like a sausage but aren’t weirdly roomy in spots that don’t need to be roomy. I like my jeans to have zero stretch, and their originals are made with that really rigid denim, and I’m currently into their wider silhouettes. I own this cropped pair in three styles and washes!” – Connie Wang, Senior Features Writer

Gap Cone Denim® High Rise Wide-straight Jeans, $36.99, available at Gap

“I like my jeans super high-waisted, but being just barely over five-feet tall, it’s rare that I don’t have to cut the bottoms of my jeans for them to hit that sweet-spot right above the ankle. These, though, check all the boxes. The straight leg is elongating without being too skinny, and the fit overall is at a flattering middle ground between second-skin and relaxed. They hit right at the waist up top and at the perfect length at the bottom, and you bet the back looks just as good as the front, too.” – Alyssa Coscarelli, Senior Fashion Market Editor

BDG Girlfriend High-rise Longline Jean – Dark Wash, $59, available at Urban Outfitters

“Thankfully for my curves, plus-size denim has vastly improved in the last few years. I have three go-to denim brands, depending on my need/budget. If I have more money to work with and need a classic, wear-with-anything style, I go for NYDJ. They’re super-comfy, and the fit is fantastic. If I want something a bit more fashion-forward with a classic twist, I go for Melissa McCarthy. Their fit is so spot-on for me that I think I must have the same measurements as their fit model. If I’m on a tighter budget and want a well-fitting but still unique and edgy look, I go to Eloquii. They are one of the most trend-focused plus brands out there, and thanks to them I don’t have to wait an entire year to try current trends!” – Liz Black, Plus-Size Contributor

Eloquii Peach Lift Jean, $89.9, available at Eloquii

“To me, killer jeans means being able to wear them every day of the week without anyone noticing. The Liya cut from Citizens of Humanity aren’t too skinny, aren’t too boxy, and have an amazing rise. Read: You can style them a million different ways and your colleagues will be none the wiser. Sure, they’ll loosen a bit if you (like me) wear them Monday through Friday but that just adds to their charm. Plus, they come in several different washes so if you’re opposed to wearing the same pants back-to-back you can swap them out for a lighter or darker pair.” – Annie Georgia Greenberg, Video Producer and Fashion Editor-At-Large

Citizens of Humanity Liya High Rise Classic Fit in Fade Out, $268, available at Citizens of Humanity

“Shopping for vintage jeans that fit just right is far from a timely process. So, when I found these AGOLDE loose-fitting jeans at American Two Shot a few months ago, I couldn’t resist the urge to get jeans that look vintage, without any of the work. I saw them, somehow knew they’d fit like a glove, and was at the register checking out five minutes later. Fate, or just really good jeans? Either way, I’ll probably be back for pair #2 pretty soon.”- Eliza Huber, Fashion Market Writer

AGOLDE ’90s Mid Rise Loose Fit in Reunion, $198, available at Agolde

“It took me a really long time to come around to wearing pants, denim included. I’m short, my hips are non-existent, and my butt is pretty big for my frame, which makes it hard to buy a pair of bottoms right off the rack. However, these cropped Loup jeans offer just the right amount of stretch and the length is perfect. I want them in every wash now!”- Chaning Hargrove, Fashion Writer

Loup Dark Indigo Simone Jeans, $165, available at Loup

“Though I don’t advocate spending too much money on vintage jeans, I can still admit that they’re worth it. They age well, and if you take good care of them (pro tip: never, ever wash them), they’ll last you a lifetime. (And last someone else a lifetime, too.)”- Landon Peoples, Fashion Features Writer

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What Is Guerrilla Marketing? 7 Examples to Inspire Your Brand

The word “guerrilla,” in its written form, seems very intense. It conjures images of rebellion and conflict. Put it next to the word “marketing,” and it makes a lot of people ask, “Huh?”

But guerrilla marketing isn’t some sort of combative form of communication. After all, that would be highly disruptive, which violates the inbound methodology. In fact, it’s actually a very unconventional form of inbound marketing, in that it raises brand awareness among large audiences, without interrupting them.

Because it’s so unconventional, however, it’s not the easiest concept to explain. Guerrilla marketing is often best understood when it’s observed, so that’s how we’re going to approach its best practices and takeaways here.Get our "event in a box" essential event marketing kit here.

We’ll start with some basics around where it came from and how it works, followed by an examination of how it’s been carried out successfully.

What Is Guerrilla Marketing?
Roots of Warfare

When we hear the term “guerrilla marketing,” it’s hard not to think of guerrilla warfare — which makes sense, since that’s where this style of marketing got its name. In the warfare context, guerrilla tactics depend largely on the element of surprise. Think: “Ambushes, sabotage, raids,” according to Creative Guerrilla Marketing.

But how does that translate into the work we do every day? In marketing, guerrilla techniques mostly play on the element of surprise. It sets out to create highly unconventional campaigns that catch people unexpectedly in the course of their day-to-day routines. You’ll see what that looks like in some the examples below.

The term itself was created in the early 1980s by the late business writer Jay Conrad Levinson, who wrote several books about guerrilla tactics in a number of professional areas. Of course, at that time, marketing in general looked very different, and while guerrilla marketing is still used today, the ever-growing digital landscape is changing what it looks like. Again — you’ll see what that looks like in some of the examples below.

Budget-Friendly

What marketers really enjoy about guerrilla marketing is its fairly low-cost nature. The real investment here is a creative, intellectual one — its implementation, however, doesn’t have to be expensive. Michael Brenner summarizes it nicely in his article on “guerrilla content,” where he frames this style of marketing in the same context as repurposing your existing content, like taking certain segments of a report, and expanding each one into a blog post. It’s an investment of time, but not money, per se.

In a way, guerrilla marketing works by repurposing your audience’s current environment. Evaluate it, and figure out which segments of it can be repurposed to include your brand.

Types of Guerrilla Marketing

As niche as it might seem, there are actually a few sub-categories of guerrilla marketing, as outlined by the firm ALT TERRAIN:

Outdoor Guerrilla Marketing. Adds something to preexisting urban environments, like putting something removable onto a statue, or putting temporary artwork on sidewalks and streets.

Indoor Guerilla Marketing. Similar to outdoor guerrilla marketing, only it takes place in indoor locations like train stations, shops, and university campus buildings.

Event Ambush Guerilla Marketing. Leveraging the audience of an in-progress event — like a concert or a sporting game — to promote a product or service in a noticeable way, usually without permission from the event sponsors.

Experiential Guerilla Marketing. All of the above, but executed in a way that requires the public to interact with the brand.

We know — without context, the whole idea of guerrilla marketing can be a little confusing, so let’s see how it’s been executed by a few other brands.

7 Guerrilla Marketing Examples to Inspire Your Brand
1) Bounty
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Source: TOXEL.COM

Here’s a fun fact about your neighborhood marketing blogger: I. Spill. Everything. Coffee? Check. Olive oil? You got it. Generally, I am simply a mess, and like to have paper towels nearby at all times.

Naturally, I couldn’t help but be impressed by this guerilla marketing installment from paper towel company Bounty. By installing life-sized “messes” throughout the streets of New York — a giant, knocked over coffee cup and a gigantic melting popsicle — the brand found a unique way to advertise its product and the solution it provides, with minimal words.

You might ask, “Wouldn’t a concise billboard ad accomplish the same thing?” Well, not really. Culturally, we’re starting to opt for every possible way to eradicate ads from our lives. That’s why we love things like DVR and ad-free options on streaming services like Hulu and YouTube. This campaign, unlike an ad, isn’t as easy to ignore. After all, if you stumbled upon a melting popsicle the size of your mattress on your way to work, would you stop and look? We would.

The big takeaway: Identify the biggest problem that your product or service solves. Then, find an unconventional way to broadcast that to the public — preferably without words.

2) The GRAMMYS

Okay, this one might not be entirely fair, since it wasn’t pulled off “in real life.” But how cool would it be if it was? To promote the nominees for its Album Of The Year category, the GRAMMYS music awards show created a video to show what would happen if posters for the nominated artists just began singing.

It might sound impossible to actually carry out something like that. But imagine — what if you could create musical posters for your brand? Again, it’s different than a billboard ad, because when we walk by a wall of paper advertisements in, say, New York City, we don’t expect them to start moving. Now, we’ll admit that this idea isn’t exactly a budget friendly one, as it might require some technical work to bring to fruition. But even if you could include a single moving or digital image among a sea of still ones — in a place where it would come as a surprise, like a brick wall — it would catch people off guard and, therefore, get their attention.

The big takeaway: Think about the things that your audience might just pass by every day — and make those things do something that’s both unexpected and interactive.

3) Frontline
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Source: Marketing Ideas 101

When I first saw this photo, I’ll admit that I fell for it. “Someone, get that dog away from those flies!” I frantically thought. Then, I realized that the dog wasn’t real, and neither were the flies. The former was a photo, and the latter were actually humans.

That’s because Frontline, the makers of flea and tick prevention products for dogs, were able to fill the entire floor of this large, public space with this image. The brand knew that many people walk across that space every day, and that a good number of people would also see it from the building’s upper levels, creating the dog-and-insect illusion. It’s hard to miss — and to not look twice.

Again, this campaign is different than traditional marketing, because it’s not just plastering a single message somewhere that’s likely to be ignored. It creates a form of accidental human interaction that reminds the viewer what the product does.

The big takeaway: Figure out how humans might involuntarily interact with your marketing messages. While your product or service may not address the issue of, say, insect removal, there are ways to make people part of the campaign.

4) Burger King
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Breaking up is hard to do in person, let alone when it’s publicly played out online. That’s what happened — allegedly — when one Instagram user left a comment on this post sharing a tale of his “girl” procuring food from Burger King. There was just one problem. This guy does have a girlfriend, but she was nowhere near a Burger King. So, who was he referring to? The drama ensued, via Instagram comments:

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After the comments began to make headlines, many speculated that the entire exchange may have been staged by Burger King. And if it was, we can’t help but salute them — what a way to get your brand into the zeitgeist. Burger King has roughly one million followers on Instagram. Compare that to the 2.1 million followers of its chief competitor, McDonald’s. And while we’re not sure how many followers the former had before this famous breakup, it makes sense to assume that this at least drew more attention to its social media presence, at least on this particular platform. People may have already been observing the brand on Instagram, but before now, were they actively discussing it?

The big takeaway: Guerrilla marketing has gone digital. Think about where your audience already exists digitally — then, give ’em a show. While we can’t condone lying, we can applaud creativity, so don’t be afraid to use the comments to get people talking.

5) UNICEF

I’m as guilty as anyone of wasting money on bottled water. I have no excuse. I have a reusable one. My workplace offers filtered water from a machine, not a traditional cooler, and yet, it remains a bad habit.

That’s why this guerrilla marketing campaign from relief organization UNICEF resonated with me. It posed the question, “What if those bottles of water you waste money on were filled with dirty water?” It was a way of reminding the privileged masses that in too many parts of the world, entire populations have no access to clean drinking water.

So instead of frivolously spending that money on bottled water, UNICEF suggested putting it toward efforts to bring clean drinking water to these areas. It did so by creating makeshift vending machines that sold bottled dirty water, with each button labeled as a disease caused by a lack of clean drinking water.

The big takeaway: Guerrilla marketing works in the not-for-profit sector, too. And while scary, saddening images are often an impactful way of communicating your mission, there’s a way to convey it by creating something less in-your-face and interactive for the public.

6) GoldToe
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Source: ALT TERRAIN

Are you an underwear company looking for an unconventional way to market your product? Why, just try placing an enormous pair of briefs on an iconic charging bull statue.

Really, we can’t make this stuff up.

It’s so simple, in theory, that it sounds like fiction. But when the GoldToe brand needed a way to tease and promote the launch of its new undergarments, that’s exactly what it did — casually placed these new items of clothing on statues throughout New York. And while we can’t be sure that it’s the route GoldToe took, we sincerely hope that those bull-sized briefs were made with leftover manufacturing fabric, helping to make this campaign even budget-friendlier.

The big takeaway: Don’t overthink it. Sometimes what looks like your silliest idea might be the best one.

7) Greene King

When you make plans to catch up with friends and family, what are the two things around which you inevitably gather? We’ll take a stab at guessing:

Food
Drink

When pub and brewing company Greene King feared that small, neighborhood establishments — notably, the pub — would start to be overtaken by large corporate retail, it launched a campaign to communicate just how important these local businesses really are. Even better, the content was almost entirely created by those who understand this predicament best: Pub owners, bartenders, and patrons.

These individuals were given cameras to capture video of the most meaningful moments and gatherings they’ve experienced inside these local pubs — from weddings, to funeral receptions, to birthdays. These videos were shared on Greene King’s YouTube profile and posed the question, “Without these neighborhood meeting places, where would we share these moments?”

The big takeaway: It’s okay to get a little sentimental with guerilla marketing. Think about the emotions invoked by what you offer. Then, invite your audience to create content around what your brand means to them.

Guerrillas in the Wild

Starting to make a little more sense?

When we set out to write this post, we were disappointed with just one element of it — we found virtually no B2B examples. That doesn’t mean it’s impossible within that sector. It just requires extra creativity.

Hopefully, you’ll be inspired by these examples, especially if you’re promoting a smaller brand. Don’t be afraid to crowdsource the content for these campaigns, for example — after all, it’s creative approaches to your work that help maintain guerrilla marketing’s budget-friendly, inbound nature. Remember: Catch people where they are, and insert your brand there. Don’t interrupt, but invite them to participate.

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Can An Heiress Be Self-Made? Paris Hilton Thinks So

Welcome to Refinery29’s weeklong exploration of women and greed in an era of enormous wealth inequality. Where does need end and greed begin? Read on.

Last month, Paris Hilton found herself in a familiar position, standing in front of a crowd of goading paparazzi decked out in bejeweled sunglasses and a shiny silver mini dress. But the conversation they were having was certainly not familiar to those who may think they know the heiress: “President Trump is going to sign the executive order to help the immigrants,” a voice yells out to her amidst the incessant pop of camera flashes. “Do you think that’s going to help?”

Hilton, who’s been the subject of paparazzi lust for almost two decades, is quick with an outspoken opinion: “He better help them, because this is not right what they’re doing to these children and their families … No one should be separated from their family. I’m disgusted,” she replies, turning her head to the side, revealing the weighty gold Gucci logo emblazoned on the arms of her glasses. She doesn’t stop signing autographs, but then looks directly into the camera and tells the world (or perhaps it’s her former family friend, Donald Trump, for whom she voted and to whom she is primarily speaking): “People come to America for the American Dream.”

This is TMZ’s contribution to the national debate over Trump’s family separation policy, and it feels both like a throwback to the tabloid-fueled chintziness of aughts-era Hollywood and a moment that could only occur in 2018. It is a surreal exchange for a litany of reasons, not least because of our collective understanding of who the woman in the sunglasses talking about immigration is: Paris Hilton is an icon not just of the 2000s, but of a certain widely held image of what inherited wealth, undeserved fame, and American excess looks like. There was her reality show The Simple Life, which followed Hilton and then-BFF Nicole Richie as they abandoned their lives of leisure to go live and work alongside “regular” Americans. Then there was also the numerous film and TV appearances, the singing career, the product lines, and the constant coverage by tabloids and early blogs. Through all this she crafted a persona — and, according to our conversation with her, that’s exactly what it was — of a spoiled, air-headed, platinum blonde princess, complete with the fake baby voice and sugary pseudo-sexuality that implies.

“I just got stuck with that character because people don’t know me in real life or haven’t spoken to me,” Hilton tells Refinery29. “They assume it’s just the baby voice and you know, ‘what’s Walmart?’ and silly things. I would say that’s not really how I am, but I was just trying to be entertaining for television.”

At 37, she’s been in and out of the spotlight for nearly two decades, and seems to be emerging now with a concerted effort to shake the image of the prodigal rich girl. How much it’s actually worked is in the eye of the beholder. “I think now I’ve really proven myself,” she argues. “With the success of my fragrances, then all my other 19 product lines, and all the big deals I’m doing, and real estate. I’m finally being taken seriously as a businesswoman and empire.”

While her grandfather donated 97 percent of his fortune to charity when he died in 2007, Paris currently has an estimated net worth of around $300 million. Her perfume empire alone is worth an estimated $1.5 billion. That it’s taken this long for Hilton to feel that she’s earned it says as much about the magnitude of her ambitions as it does about our fascination with money and how those who have it behave. Hilton was arguably the first person to turn her mere privileged existence into a lucrative career, a model copied today by many, but most famously mastered by Kim Kardashian (Paris’ old right hand) and her sisters. This year alone, Hilton released her 24th fragrance, launched a skincare line, and premiered a show on Viceland — of all places — where she examines the lives of young people attempting to “make it” in Hollywood. She also still DJs for nightly fees that, in 2014, were reported to be as high as $1 million per night, and dropped a new single titled “I Need You” earlier this year, though unfortunately it failed to live up to the success of her 2006 cult hit “Stars Are Blind.”

Yes, I came from Hilton hotels, but I’ve parlayed it into such a huge business that even my grandfather said to me, ‘I used to be known as Barron Hilton. Now I’m known as Paris Hilton’s grandfather.’

For all of today’s conversations about the spectrum of privilege and where certain people get placed on it, America either loves, or loves to hate, rich people. (Bonus points if they’re beautiful women with recognizable last names.) In thinking about Hilton, it’s hard not to call to mind another very privileged, very ambitious young woman: Ivanka Trump. In addition to being friends since childhood, both have monetized their moneyed backgrounds and our hunger for a piece of their world to sell a watered-down, mass-produced version of luxury. Paris’s numerous fragrances, like Ivanka’s now-defunct clothing line, are much less valuable because of the products themselves as they are because of the names behind them.

Hilton herself seems to understand this, saying of her new scent: “I really, I really want it to represent me and have my fans have a piece of me.” Nevermind that it smells like one of 2018’s least popular scents (roses), and has aggressively ignored the minimalist, millennial-friendly packaging her celebrity peers have adopted — Hilton’s confidence in her product reflects a confidence that rich-bitch wealth will always be relevant.

Indeed, even as her own star power has waxed and waned, the enormity of her legacy has come into focus: She is there in the fashion influencers filling your feed with their spon con. She is there among the stars of various reality television franchises, as they fling insults and beverages about on national TV. She is there among the socialite-turned-DJs-turned-fashion-designers that populate the most rarefied corners of the world, like Harley Viera-Newton and Alexa Chung.

“Ever since I was a teenager, I wanted to be independent. I didn’t want to have to ask my family for anything,” Hilton explains of her attitude toward money and privilege. “Yes, I came from Hilton hotels, but I’ve parlayed it into such a huge business that even my grandfather said to me, ‘I used to be known as Barron Hilton. Now I’m known as Paris Hilton’s grandfather.’”

When asked about the recent controversy surrounding Forbes magazine’s designation of Kylie Jenner, whom Hilton has known since birth, as “self-made,” she was adamant that she agrees with that characterization — and feels it applies to herself as well. “I think of myself and anyone who does business as being self-made. Everything I’ve done, I’ve done on my own, and yes, I do come from a last name, but there also are many children I know that come from families who, you know, take the choice of not doing anything with their lives.”

“I think of myself and anyone who does business as being self-made.

“I work harder and travel more than any CEO I’m friends with,” she continued. “The same with Kylie. I think any woman who is going to get into business and be an entrepreneur and make a big name and brand for themselves, they are self-made.”

Indeed, Hilton and Jenner probably do work harder and travel more than any CEO. Because while a traditional CEO is responsible for a particular product, what Hilton and Jenner are selling is more ephemeral and all-encompassing. The CEO of L’Oreal or MAC doesn’t have to prove that their entire existence is consistent with and can be distilled into a $30 lip kit or a $20 perfume. Perhaps the fact that this is a real career path is a small part of the reason why the American Dream to which Hilton refers in the video increasingly feels like just that — a hallucination from another plane of consciousness. If the American Dream, a flawed premise in and of itself, is about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, what Hilton and Jenner have done is more like standing for a long period of time in Louboutins. It’s impressive, but you had to have the $1,000 down payment to get there.

Paris Hilton is not self-made, of course. But it’s not hard to imagine how people like Hilton, Jenner, and Kardashian — who recently echoed a sentiment similar in an interview with Refinery29 — are able to conceive of themselves as such. They are indeed a different breed from those born into immense privilege who make no attempt to move forward on the opportunities afforded to them. Hilton’s hustle is impressive, but it doesn’t make her self-made in the way that someone like Cardi B or Rihanna is. You can be hard-working and break barriers without being able to define yourself as self-made.

Hilton’s legacy is a complicated one predicated not just on a cultural obsession with rich girls, but on a sexist desire to tear apart and vilify them in a way that rarely occurs with men of similar means. Why are we so obsessed with the Kardashian sisters and not the Brant brothers?

When we spoke to Hilton over the phone, she sounded cool and self-assured. She has, in case you were weren’t aware, dropped the infamous little girl voice. Surprisingly though, like many who came of age in an era before smartphones and social media and celebrities with teams of people meticulously crafting every inch of their facades, she also holds a degree of nostalgia for that more freewheeling time. “I can’t imagine if I had social media back then,” she confesses, imagining how much more difficult her fame would have been to cultivate.

“I didn’t have all these tools. I didn’t have an agent, no publicist, no manager. I’m going out in public and just being myself and everyone used to say like, ‘Oh my God, famous for being famous’ and like it was almost a bad thing, but now I feel like it’s a whole new formula that has really inspired this whole new generation.”

Despite this, Hilton boasts 9.3 million followers on Instagram, and 17.2 million on Twitter. There are fan accounts out there dedicated not just to her, but to her pets. She’s not Kim Kardashian, who has 114 million Instagram followers, nor is she of the mold of Chrissy Teigen and Busy Phillips, two celebrities beloved for their highly relatable social media content. But people don’t follow Paris Hilton for the great content she’s going to post. They follow her because she’s Paris Hilton.

Critics have said that The Simple Life, the premise of which was dreamed up by Fox execs, functioned to mock the denizens of the small towns it featured, but one could just as easily argue that Hilton and Richie were the butt of the joke. It also flattened Hilton into the one-dimensional character that it appears the “real” her has spent the past decade struggling to emerge from. It is unavailable for streaming on any of the major sites, but exists in perpetuity on YouTube. What is supremely ironic about Hilton and her attempt to return to the spotlight is that the thing that initially beamed her into our living rooms was that she was such an effective agent in showcasing the great American class divide, a massive crater which has only widened in the decade following.

Indeed, Paris Hilton is truly not self-made. But more than her family’s wealth or her well-known last name, we made her.

While Twitter didn’t exist back then, tabloids and early blogs did, and as Hilton’s star rose, so too did the level of scrutiny placed on her. In 2004, just as Hilton was about to become a household name, her ex-boyfriend Rick Salomon released a pornographic video of her. Today, the video would be understood as revenge porn, but back then, it was somehow understood as attention-seeking on Hilton’s part. In The American Meme, a 2018 documentary she appeared in, she compared the ordeal to being raped and said she “literally wanted to die.” While illicit celebrity tapes still exist and get leaked, it’s thankfully no longer socially acceptable (in most places, at least) to slut-shame the women victimized by them. If anything, thanks to the ability of the internet to magnify a more diverse range of voices, people are quick to call out such injustices with hackers serving jail time.

“It’s incredible what is happening right now with this movement,” Hilton says of contemporary feminism. “I think women can take over the world. Even though there’s been so many awful things that have happened and scary things, it’s really just changed the whole climate, and what people know women are capable of.”

But there’s a big caveat: We know the capabilities of some women, the ones who have been provided with the advantages necessary to show us what they can do. Which is maybe why Hilton’s rebranding as a serious business woman feels complicated at best. What’s surprising, though, is that even now, her understanding of a concept like being self-made still seems so limited.

Nevertheless, critics would do well to remember that Hilton wouldn’t have become famous if we hadn’t wanted her to be. Indeed, Paris Hilton is truly not self-made. But more than her family’s wealth or her well-known last name, we made her.

And to hear her tell it, she’s grateful: “I feel so proud of my fanbase and how loyal they are. The relationship I have with my fans, they’re like my family. They call themselves the Little Hiltons, it’s such a loyal fanbase. They really can relate with me.”

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Pete Davidson’s Proposal To Ariana Grande Was So HIGHlariously On Brand!

People go to all sorts of lengths for magical proposals.

If this story is true, it sounds like Pete Davidson asked Ariana Grande to marry him like he was deciding to order a pizza! LOLz!

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The Saturday Night Live performer did a surprise standup comedy gig for charity at A.V. Zogg Middle School in Liverpool, New York on Saturday.

Apparently the act included a Q&A section in which someone asked how he popped the question.

One attendee tweeted:

I just went to see Pete Davidson do stand up and he said he proposed to Ariana while he was smoking weed in bed
— carly (@carlyanz7) July 22, 2018

“Smoking weed in bed.”

Is there is a more Pete Davidson way to get engaged?? Well, maybe being told he’s getting married and going, “OK.” LOLz!

Obvi we have no idea if he was just kidding, but we’re curious to hear the couple eventually tell the story!

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Brand Patagonia: A Founders Story And Strategy

Brand Patagonia: A Founders Story And Strategy

In April 2017, the authors of Legacy In The Making visited me at Patagonia’s headquarters, in Ventura, California, to talk about the legacy I’m building as the founder of Patagonia. We talked about a lot of things, some of which I’d never spoken about before. Afterward, when they asked me if I’d share some of those insights and stories in the foreword to their book and I made it clear: I never wanted to be a conventional businessman. I liked climbing rocks, not corporate ladders.

“Exactly,” they responded. “That’s why we asked you.”

It’s true. I never set out to be a businessman. Over the years, I’ve learned a lot about business with Chouinard Equipment and Patagonia, the two outdoor outfitters I founded. But I’m a creature of the 1960s. I never liked authority. I was a rock climber. Back when I started climbing at the age of 19, the gear was poor quality. The pitons—the metal spikes you drive into cracks—were made of soft iron and were designed to be used once and left in place. The attitude back then was about dominating the mountains, conquering them and leaving all your gear behind to make it easier for the next party. I didn’t share that attitude. I had a different ambition.

I wanted to climb without leaving a trace so that the next party and every party after that could experience the climb as I had—in its natural state. To do that, I needed a new kind of piton that you could remove and reuse over and over as you ascended. Since nothing like that existed at the time, I decided to design it myself. I bought an old coal-fired forge from a junkyard, built a small shop in my parents’ backyard, taught myself how to blacksmith, and began making my own high-quality reusable pitons. They were the first of their kind, designed for a new style of climbing. I called my fledgling company Chouinard Equipment.

Initially, I was just a craftsman making climbing gear for myself and my friends. But I happened to be pretty good at it, and pretty soon I was selling gear to friends of friends out of the back of my car (whenever I wasn’t surfing or climbing, that is). That evolved into making better crampons—the metal spikes on climbing boots—and better ice axes. With climbing, the better the tool, the better your chance of coming home in one piece. The quality of the materials and design—how the tool actually functioned in the field—was everything. People noticed, and by 1970 Chouinard Equipment had become the largest supplier of climbing equipment in the United States.

At that time, we were on the cutting edge of climbing. Some of the climbs we were doing in Yosemite National Park were harder than any rock climbs ever done in the world. Being on the cutting edge meant that we were not following the market. We weren’t waiting for customers to tell us what to make. For example, when I started coming out with new tools for ice climbing, people had no idea how to use them, and so I began writing a book about it. The Austrians and Germans had different techniques than the French and the Scottish. I ran around the world and studied all the different techniques so that I could bring everything together in one unified method.

In 1970, on my way home from climbing in Scotland, I bought a rugby shirt—a blue one with yellow and red stripes. Functionally, I thought it would be a great climbing shirt. It had a tough collar so that the gear slings wouldn’t cut your neck and rubber buttons that wouldn’t rip off. At that time, American sportswear was basically gray sweatpants and sweatshirts. That was it. There was no colored sportswear for men. Yet all of a sudden, here I was, wearing this really colorful shirt, and people were saying, “Wow, where’d you get that?” That was when we decided to start selling our own.

Our colors got pretty outrageous, but they also served a function. When you spend days suspended on a “big wall” climb or weeks stormbound in a tent, it’s tough on your psyche. You want colorful clothes just for your own mental health.

We sold a lot of those rugby shirts. By 1973, we had launched a new brand, Patagonia, to focus on our growing clothing business. Unlike Chouinard Equipment (which we eventually sold to a group of employees who launched a brand called Black Diamond), we knew nothing about the established clothing industry when we started Patagonia. Zero. Conventional fashion designers take a mannequin, wrap cloth around it, pin it here and there, and create a dress. But our background was in designing lifesaving climbing gear, not fashion, and so we looked at clothes as tools.

Before we designed any new piece of clothing—whether it was an alpine jacket, a pair of socks, or a bikini—we always started by asking about function. What problem were we trying to solve? How would the product be used, not just worn? Which features would it need, and which would it not need? It’s like Antoine de Saint-Exupéry said: “A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.” In retrospect, I think that is our biggest contribution to the clothing business: treating clothes as tools and applying the principles of industrial design.

When you approach products as tools that serve a function, it forces you to pare things down to their essence. Just look around. Complexity is easy. The world is full of complex, disposable junk. Simplifying things, though—designing quality tools that last—now, that’s hard.

More than 60 years after I forged that first removable piton, we still approach everything we make just as I did in the beginning— as a simple, functional tool. The best tool for whatever your ambition is. As my ambition was to make better gear for the things I loved to do, my companies were the tools I used to achieve that ambition. But as your ambitions evolve, as mine would before long, so must your tools.

Finding Our Way Back To The Real Patagonia

As the years have passed and Patagonia has grown, so have the brand’s responsibilities. These days, we behave as if we want to be in business a hundred years from now. This is reflected in our mission statement: “Make the best product, cause no unnecessary harm, and use business to inspire and implement solutions to the environmental crisis.” The mission statement is a tool, too. Like a compass, its function is to orient our brand culture and keep it moving in the right direction. But Patagonia didn’t always work this way.

In the early years, I ran the business like every other company. Just running it for the sake of getting larger and larger, doing everything that normal companies do. By the 1980s, we were taking off: opening new dealers, developing our own retail stores, and growing about 50 percent a year. You can’t grow like that for very long before you end up in financial trouble. It’s just impossible.

In 1990, the American economy went into recession. After years of growing just for the sake of growing, our sales suddenly hit a wall. The banks got into financial trouble, and so did we. We couldn’t borrow enough money to cover inventory, and we nearly lost the business. For the first time in our history, we had to lay people off—20 percent of our entire staff. Those people were like family, and the impact on our brand culture was a wake-up call. After we had been preoccupied with growth for years, our brand was adrift. Not only did we have to reassess our growth plans, we had to reassess who we were and who we wanted to be.

That was when I took our key managers—about 10 or 12 of us—and we all went down to Argentina, to the real Patagonia. We hiked around, sat down, and asked ourselves why we were in business and what we expected to get out of this. We asked each person why he or she was working for us. Though my ambition had always been to build the best tools, it was during this trip that we discussed our values:

• Make the highest-quality products.
• Consider the environmental impact of everything we do.
• Engage and support our communities.
• Contribute a portion of our sales to philanthropy.

No one said a word about profit.

Once we had collected everyone’s thoughts, we established our brand values by consensus. I’ve always believed in making decisions by consensus as opposed to compromise. Compromise is what the government does. Compromise never solves a problem. Compromise leaves both sides feeling cheated. Consensus is how Native American tribes historically made decisions, and it was the chief ’s job to build consensus. That’s been my role: to set the general direction we’re going in and to get our employees to buy in.

After we got back from our trip to Patagonia, I started leading weeklong seminars to teach our employees about the values that would guide our brand culture moving forward. I wanted everyone to be empowered to make day-to-day decisions that were based on those values rather than always waiting for instructions from the boss. Years later, in 2005, I published everything—my ambition, our history, our growth crisis, our values—in Let My People Go Surfing: The Education of a Reluctant Businessman. Like those recyclable pitons, I didn’t publish the book to get rich. I did it because as a reluctant businessman, I had learned an important lesson about business: Regardless of what you sell, your business itself—including your culture and your values—is your product. If we could inspire more values-based businesses, our society and environment would be a lot better off.

Let My People Go Surfing is still selling all over the world. They teach it in high schools, and it’s been printed in 9 or 10 languages—all because people see the Patagonia brand as a different model. We’re not alone in our beliefs. Brands with long-term ambitions and strong values-driven cultures are increasingly demonstrating that profits and purpose aren’t mutually exclusive.

Lasting Brands Move People, Not Just Goods

I’ve always been an advocate for social and environmental causes, but I don’t like being on the front lines. I get too frustrated. Instead, I’ve learned how to use business to effect change. We follow our beliefs, our customers follow us, and positive change tends to follow that. People who believe in what we’re doing gravitate to our message. They become our advocates. That’s why our marketing philosophy is so simple: We tell people who we are and what we do. That’s it. Fiction is so much more difficult to write than nonfiction.

For us, marketing isn’t about moving goods. It’s about moving people. For example, in 2011 we ran a print ad on Black Friday that said, “Don’t buy this jacket.” We sold so many of those jackets! That wasn’t the intent. The intent was to encourage people to reflect on what they buy and to buy only what they need. The best thing you can do for the environment as far as clothing goes is to buy the very best quality, use it as long as possible, and keep it out of the landfill. Repair it. Reuse it. Recycle it.

That Black Friday campaign forced us to make a pact with our customers: If you buy one of our jackets, we’ll repair it forever. If you outgrow it or stop using it, we’ll help you sell it to somebody else. Eventually we’ll take it back and melt it down into more jackets. It forced us to build the largest garment repair facility in North America. In fact, we have a truck that goes around to colleges and teaches kids how to sew buttons on. We’ll repair any of their clothes, not just ours. We practice business this way because our customers are our loyal sales force, and they pay far more attention to good deeds than to lofty words.

For our 2016 Black Friday campaign, we decided to give all the revenue away to environmental causes. Not just the profits. All of our revenue that day. As a result, our sales quadrupled, from $2.5 million the previous year to over $10 million for Black Friday 2016. We gave away all $10 million—in addition to the $9 million contribution we made that same year in line with our annual commitment to contribute 1 percent of our sales to charity. Philanthropic campaigns like this don’t cut into our sales. In fact, 60 percent of our customers from these campaigns are new. Just think about how much it costs most companies to get new customers. The social media aspect of this campaign cost us nothing. We let the word out, and in turn, our customers helped spread the word for us.

At the end of the year, we measure success by how much good we’ve done and what impact we’re having on society, not by profit. Honestly, if you ask me how much money we’ve made in the last year, I would have to look it up. I know that we are extremely profitable. I also believe in karma. Karma and profits coexist here because every time we’ve made a decision in service of doing good, our customers have noticed. And when our customers get behind us, more good things follow.

Write Your Own Rules, Don’t Master Someone Else’s

I know it’s unorthodox to be guided by both karma and profits, but that’s just one of many ways we break the rules of business these days. I think of Patagonia less as a conventional brand selling products than as an experiment, an evolving means of using business to solve social problems.

If you look around and see who’s working here, we all have degrees in subjects such as anthropology, zoology, and English. Only a few of us actually have degrees in business. We’re all learning how to run a business by asking lots of questions and approaching things as beginners. We’re successful because we have the confidence to write our own rules rather than master someone else’s.

Maybe that’s why we’re comfortable being a guinea pig and trying new things. We’re making healthy food and producing films about society’s impact on the natural world. We’re even thinking about starting an immersive nature school for kids. As unconventional as these programs may sound, all of them are firmly rooted in our ambitions and values. Ultimately, the next generation won’t care about nature if they don’t think they’re part of it. So while our values haven’t changed, the way we choose to express those values to new generations of customers is always evolving.

At Patagonia, it’s not that we’re just looking for ways to stand out for the sake of standing out. We behave differently because our ambitions are different. We also measure success differently—on the basis of long-term contributions, not short-term profits. When you chase short-term profits, you either keep doing what you already know will work or copy what someone else is doing. We don’t do that. When we stand out, it’s because we’ve found a new way to express our long-term ambitions.

In the mid-1990s, for example, we took a stand against chemically intensive cotton and began making all of our clothes with organic cotton. It was a challenge, and a lot of our manufacturing partners walked away from us, but we learned by doing and ultimately developed our own private cotton supply chain. Most people aren’t willing to jump right in like that. But that’s the way I like to deal with everything. Most people want to figure things out to the nth degree before they ever take a step. In the end, they won’t even take that step because it feels too unfamiliar. Not me. I immediately jump in and see how it feels. That’s how I know we’re on the cutting edge—when we step outside conventions and lead the market rather than follow it. This approach takes vision and perseverance, but it keeps us in a category of our own. As the saying goes, “First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win.”

I was on a panel during the recent recession, and it was all surf industry CEOs and people like that. We all talked about our businesses, and I talked about how much effort we put into cleaning up our supply chain and trying not to cause unnecessary harm. One of the CEOs from one of the largest surf companies told me his company had been making a few organic cotton ball caps and T-shirts before the recession but had cut back when the economy slowed down.

I said, “How are your sales?” He said, “Well, we’re down about 25 percent.” Patagonia was up 30 percent. That company ultimately filed for bankruptcy. Today the surf industry is on the rocks, but we’re doing great because we’re riding our own wave.

The Secret To Lasting Is To Keep Playing Your Own Game

I’ve been in business for over 60 years. I’ve survived bad times. I’ve thrived in good times. I believe the secret to lasting is never sitting still. Some people see change as a threat. They hate it. I thrive on it, as does every ecosystem as well as every business that cares about its legacy in the making. I’m not talking about change for the sake of change. I’m talking about evolving and adapting as if you intend on being here a hundred years from now; it’s about never losing sight of where you came from or what inspired you in the first place.

Although we try to run Patagonia as if it’s going to be here a hundred years from now, I tell my employees that doesn’t mean we have a hundred years to get there. Continuous change requires a sense of urgency. That’s why my job these days is to combat complacency and instigate change. There’s a falconry term—yarak—that means super-alert, hungry, and ready to hunt. Along with our other leaders, one of my responsibilities is to keep the company in yarak.

The best way I keep us from sitting still is by using what I’ve learned to educate and inspire the next generation of leaders, which includes the following:

• Have an ambition to develop better tools.
• Growth can be toxic, though culture can be a tonic.
• Move people, not just products.
Be distinct in everything we do.
• Evolve and change to remain unique.
• Long-term values can guide quick decision-making every day.

As the authors of this book say, “The making of a legacy is personal, behavioral, influential, unconventional, and perpetual.” These lessons don’t expire, and through education they can transcend generations. So I share my story—as I have here—to pass my legacy forward for others to carry on.

The business world talks about the importance of long-term thinking in a short-term world. It’s true, though it’s never easy. Conventional business will fight you every step of the way. Long-term investments in programs such as our brand’s employee childcare center and our pollution standards always look negative on our financial ledger. But because we think long-term, we know we have responsibilities beyond our conventional bottom line. So do you. So does every great brand leader.

You may already believe that your culture is your product, not what you sell. You may also believe, like me, that companies shouldn’t exist simply to be sold for a profit and broken apart. Of course, this isn’t how conventional business works. Conventional business treats companies like fatted calves to be auctioned to the highest bidder in the shortest amount of time. It’s the American way. It starts when we’re young, when they say, “Okay, kids, line up on the starting line and let’s see who can run the fastest! Now line up over here, kids, and let’s see who can jump the highest!” That way of thinking produces one superhero and a bunch of losers. But, I wanted to do something different. I always have.

Growing up, I was as good as anybody at baseball and football and other sports. But when it came time to line up and perform for a crowd, I couldn’t do it. So I’ve been a climber, a kayaker, a falconer, a Telemark skier, a spear fisherman—all noncompetitive sports. All individual pursuits where your only competition is how high you set your personal ambitions.

That’s my advice to you as you build your legacy in the making: Invent your own game. Ask yourself what you hope to get out of this life, let that enduring ambition guide you, and if the right tools don’t exist to accomplish it, design your own tools. Be the only person who does what you do the way you do it. That way, you will always be the winner.

~Yvon Chouinard, Founder of Patagonia

Contributed to Branding Strategy Insider by: Marc Miller and Lucas Conley with the permission of McGraw-Hill. Excerpted and adapted from Legacy in the Making: Building a Long-Term Brand to Stand Out in a Short-Term World

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10 Summer Pieces I’m Eyeing From The Men’s Section

Overall, my style tends to be pretty frilly — ruffles, sheer fabrics, long skirts, bows, and florals are all mainstays in my wardrobe. But as I’m getting older, I’m realizing: Why should we commit to just one aesthetic? Just because I love a good midi dress or puffy-sleeved top doesn’t mean I can’t also dabble in, say, normcore — even if that means wearing clothing that’s more “masculine” than what I usually go for. So, in an effort to expand my look, I’m giving that whole dad-on-vacation look a try.

It just so happens that the best place to get these staples is straight from the men’s section (yes, it’s that easy). While some womenswear labels have reworked pieces like the chunky sandal, the fanny pack, and the graphic tee, attempting to make these ironically-trendy pieces actually trendy, if you want the best version of the items ahead (and that cool, oversized fit), we suggest going straight to the source.

Since it’s 2018 and all clothing should be fair game regardless of whether it’s designated as ‘men’s’ or ‘women’s,’ here are 10 pieces I’m borrowing from the boys — just because I can.

The Long-Sleeved Skater TeeWith bike shorts or denim cut-offs, this will become a vital part of your weekend uniform.

Jaw x Jaw Shop, $130, available at Tictail

Baggy ShortsTrust us: These will look sweet with a plain white tank or crop top.

The North Face, $35, available at Urban Outfitters

The Bucket HatShield the sun in the most stylish summer staple.

Acne Studios, $130, available at Acne Studios

Crew SocksSometimes you just need a good, thick sock for your Nikes or Vans slip-ons (or, if you’re really feeling the aesthetic, with a pair of pool slides).

Kith x Stance, $18, available at Kith

The Rain JacketBecause those summer storms are inevitable, and I refuse to buy another deli umbrella.

Noah, $988, available at Noah

Swim TrunksSheer muumuus are cool and all, but I would much rather throw on some striped trunks as a cover-up. Over a one-piece, it’s a look that can take you from the water to the bar with ease.

Onia, $145, available at Onia

The Fanny PackIf you still haven’t hopped on board, what are you waiting for? These hands-free life-savers are key for summer adventures.

Nicce, $28, available at ASOS

The Graphic T-ShirtForget that white Gucci logo tee everyone has; this one stands out in the crowd.

Gucci, $480, available at Mr. Porter

The Crewneck SweatshirtFor chilly beach sunsets and Friday nights in.

Outdoor Voices, $60, available at Outdoor Voices

Statement JeansIf we’re talking menswear, we’re talking Raf Simons, and as a fan of the 1981 film Christiane F., these jeans are the perfect excuse to go a little punk this summer. (And, yes, black jeans are a year-round staple).

Raf Simons, $947, available at MatchesFashion.com

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Kim Kardashian Says North West Speaks Her Mind ‘No Matter What’ Just Like Dad Kanye West!

Like father, like daughter!

On Tuesday, Kim Kardashian spoke to ET at her KKW Beauty and fragrance pop-up shop at Westfield Century City where she reveals how daughter North West is just like father Kanye West!

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The KUWTK star dished:

“She’s a Gemini, so she’s a little bit of both [me and Kanye West]… She definitely has Kanye’s outgoing personality and will say what’s on her mind no matter what it is and who it might offend… But then she’s sweet like me… So she’s a little bit of both.”

The cute five-year-old is also into fashion and beauty, just like mommy Kimmy!

“She really is into beauty… She loves hair looks, that’s her thing, and she loves a little bit of makeup.”

Last Friday, Miz West celebrated her birthday in New York, and before that, was gifted two Alexander Wang purses from the designer himself.

Although her daughter receives very expensive gifts, Kim says North “has no idea what they are,” and makes sure the tot stays grounded.

“What I do for her birthday, she gets gifts and then she has to be really good and earn the things and do her chores and walk her dog… We have a chore chart that she has to make her bed. She has so many things she has to do if she wants to get something, so she doesn’t really get a whole lot of stuff like you would think.”

Oh, and North also has to be nice to her siblings: Saint and Chicago West!

“It goes up and down… She definitely has been better since the little baby was here. Saint and Chicago’s relationship is so sweet that I don’t know what’s going to top that.”

It’s North’s world… we’re just living in it!

[Image via Kim Kardashian/Instagram.]

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